Lo Zhi Zhan I took 4 years to realise the other side of someone.
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other side? I thought you only realised he has no balls?
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Lo Zhi Zhan
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Lo Zhi Zhan
He got no balls! Obviously. And he's from NUS! NUS UNIVERSITY SCHOLAR PROGRAMME SCHOLAR some more.
See the quality of our scholars!
Eh, should i post the hot conversation online?
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Rico Kaibin Lim
See the quality of our scholars!
Eh, should i post the hot conversation online?
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Rico Kaibin Lim
eh dun stereotype can ?
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Lo Zhi Zhan
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Lo Zhi Zhan
Rico Kaibin Lim
anyway scholars dun make better "humans" they are juz better at maybe studying ?
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Lo Zhi ZhanHahaha. I just feel that as scholars, there should be good moral conduct. And as a scholar myself, i demand that of myself.
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Rico Kaibin Lim
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Lo Zhi ZhanHahaha. I just feel that as scholars, there should be good moral conduct. And as a scholar myself, i demand that of myself.
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Rico Kaibin Lim
I dunnoe before i was a "scholar" i already had the same moral values i have now... moral values shouldn't change no matter wat label u carry. I feel...
I mean lets say one day if everything falls apart does ur moral values change as well?
I only feel that these labels makes ppl more obligated to certain decisions...... Read more
Like a policeman is less likely to do something against the law as u might think? but that's is not necessary true
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Lo Zhi Zhan
I mean lets say one day if everything falls apart does ur moral values change as well?
I only feel that these labels makes ppl more obligated to certain decisions...... Read more
Like a policeman is less likely to do something against the law as u might think? but that's is not necessary true
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Lo Zhi Zhan
True. But then, as a policeman, you will be more likely to scrutinize your own actions, so that you will be a good example.
Of course, we always have to bring our moral values wherever we go, just tt when u represent something greater, i feel there is a need to be more careful than usual =)
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Rico Kaibin Lim
Of course, we always have to bring our moral values wherever we go, just tt when u represent something greater, i feel there is a need to be more careful than usual =)
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Rico Kaibin Lim
My apologies before you read this... all this are typed as a form of discussion nothing personal... im looking to find out the answers for myself as well..
I think I might have discussed this issue in one of my classes in school...
The example was we have laws and rules in our world "guide" us.... Read more
Usually laws and rules go with our "moral" values right?
but when u remove laws and rules high chance this world might go abit chaotic...
Because we removed the consequences of our actions we act differently.... the 2 sides of the arguments are for me
1. Ppl think less about consequences as there are fewer.
2.Ppl "original" mind was naturally "evil"
Just like ur point because we are representing something greater we have more consequences for our actions.
My question is does these extra consequences makes us have better moral values ?
Wouldn't you be a better "human" if you had the same moral values as a person who as more "consequences" than you?
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Rico Kaibin Lim
I think I might have discussed this issue in one of my classes in school...
The example was we have laws and rules in our world "guide" us.... Read more
Usually laws and rules go with our "moral" values right?
but when u remove laws and rules high chance this world might go abit chaotic...
Because we removed the consequences of our actions we act differently.... the 2 sides of the arguments are for me
1. Ppl think less about consequences as there are fewer.
2.Ppl "original" mind was naturally "evil"
Just like ur point because we are representing something greater we have more consequences for our actions.
My question is does these extra consequences makes us have better moral values ?
Wouldn't you be a better "human" if you had the same moral values as a person who as more "consequences" than you?
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Rico Kaibin Lim
As for the police man part ... just like teachers i think the ideal teacher is to "teach" but i think many of todays teachers are there just because its good $...
just like the policeman could just be there for a job... or even national service.... i think ppl with certain moral standards will then scrutinize their own actions.
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Lo Zhi Zhan
just like the policeman could just be there for a job... or even national service.... i think ppl with certain moral standards will then scrutinize their own actions.
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Lo Zhi Zhan
Hm, just off hand, i feel that people are originally self-centered.
I once heard this saying. There is only one crime in this world, and that is to steal. All crimes revolves around stealing. Like murder is to steal someone's right to live. And so on.
True, law and order make people think about and bear the true consequences of their actions. ... Read more
Hm, i just feel that the mentioned consequences might make us review ourselves. Whether we make ourselves better or remain the same at the end of the day is what we make out of ourselves.
At the end of the day, humans are constantly being shaped. We are put in our consequences, and i believe that as part of life, this is an environment where we will grow.
=)
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Sunny Neo
I once heard this saying. There is only one crime in this world, and that is to steal. All crimes revolves around stealing. Like murder is to steal someone's right to live. And so on.
True, law and order make people think about and bear the true consequences of their actions. ... Read more
Hm, i just feel that the mentioned consequences might make us review ourselves. Whether we make ourselves better or remain the same at the end of the day is what we make out of ourselves.
At the end of the day, humans are constantly being shaped. We are put in our consequences, and i believe that as part of life, this is an environment where we will grow.
=)
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Sunny Neo
I think scholar or not. It's hard to assess a person real characters and values.
To be a scholar, you "just" have to score As, have good CCA positions/records and able to wayang through interviews (which can be prepared)
As long as the scholar uphold a good image or appear morally upright in front of the public, people can't really fault him/her for anything.... Read more
Don't talk about scholars, just look at politicians and leaders in certain countries, you get my drift :)
Of course, ZZ is just so pissed at the person that he's just ranting. hahaha. I always do that also!
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Rico Kaibin Lim
To be a scholar, you "just" have to score As, have good CCA positions/records and able to wayang through interviews (which can be prepared)
As long as the scholar uphold a good image or appear morally upright in front of the public, people can't really fault him/her for anything.... Read more
Don't talk about scholars, just look at politicians and leaders in certain countries, you get my drift :)
Of course, ZZ is just so pissed at the person that he's just ranting. hahaha. I always do that also!
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Rico Kaibin Lim
Zhi Zhan-->
yeah i read a little of the selfish gene... pardon me if i get tis interpretation wrong... up till now evolution only chooses the strongest genes to survive i think from gene wise we are already self centered
but on the other hand my lecturer told me of another book that discuss the likely hood of gene which holds the idea of Altruism in all living creatures.
... Read more
Example would be bees, each type of bee work for the colony and have no self interest
Lo Zhi Zhan
yeah i read a little of the selfish gene... pardon me if i get tis interpretation wrong... up till now evolution only chooses the strongest genes to survive i think from gene wise we are already self centered
but on the other hand my lecturer told me of another book that discuss the likely hood of gene which holds the idea of Altruism in all living creatures.
... Read more
Example would be bees, each type of bee work for the colony and have no self interest
Lo Zhi Zhan
I wan go sleep alr. Tml we continue this. Interesting.
You bees story sorts of relates to karl marx's idea of communism. However, communism is an idea which is said to be way ahead of our time. =)
Rico Kaibin Lim
You bees story sorts of relates to karl marx's idea of communism. However, communism is an idea which is said to be way ahead of our time. =)
Rico Kaibin Lim
the idea of communism has no problem at all. I just that the being using it that has the problem.
Hahah kinda long ... but i think its a very intersting thing to chat about.... hahahahahaha as he said ... we shall continue be prepared for a part 2...
Hahah kinda long ... but i think its a very intersting thing to chat about.... hahahahahaha as he said ... we shall continue be prepared for a part 2...
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